I dont have the most established clientelle. I mostly work with indie brands and nationally touring bands all over. I dont have such clients who would see fit or be able to afford any more than that for my designs. I guess id rather charge less and sell then try and sell a design for months for a more reasonable price. What would you guys suggest?
MStarkeyDesign said:I dont have the most established clientelle. I mostly work with indie brands and nationally touring bands all over. I dont have such clients who would see fit or be able to afford any more than that for my designs. I guess id rather charge less and sell then try and sell a design for months for a more reasonable price. What would you guys suggest?
MStarkeyDesign said:Elaborate how i lack 'respect for my work'. And who are you to tell me.
He's talking about your pricing being astronomically low. "Bands unable to afford my work" isn't an excuse to sell so low. Absolute worst case, $200 should be a dead minimum with the work you're doing(and I even cringe at that figure). You're devaluing your work(which in a lot of cases devalues every other potential artist a band/brand you've worked with looks at) by offering such low rates, regardless of how fitting it is to so-and-so's budget. We'll assume most bands are a 4 piece(though now it seems like most are 5-6 piece but we'll use 4), $50 is excessively low per-person cost. If each individual cannot afford that, they shouldn't be purchasing new artwork.
Bottom line: don't sell yourself short. You should be getting paid for your work reasonably, as these musicians are getting paid reasonably for their work. Working at what really equates to slightly above minimum wage for artwork such as this is hurting you and all your fellow artists alike.
Well i am a student right now so this is my sole income and actually getting paid an ammount takes president to milking the design for all its worth. I do recognize that the price i ask is less than par, but keep in mind i am a new freelance designer. I am building clientelle and have worked my way up from doing simple crappy designs for $30 a pop. I will continue to increase my prices according to the growth of clients and commission. I thank you all for your input and concern and will keep it in mind,surely. Thanks again. Mason
We're not even talking about milking it for what it's worth. If we go based on that, most professions with hourly rates are anywhere from $60-90 an hour, on average. You took more than 4 hours on this(I saw the caption while browsing your Facebook you posted for more of your work where about halfway was 4 hours), which means $240 would have been dead AVERAGE at that point. Milking it for what it's worth would put you squarely inside the $500-600 range. We aren't talking about that, we're talking fair market value.
I'd say the majority(probably 85-90%) of the artists around here don't have a set clientele. That doesn't mean they should undervalue themselves to make a buck. I understand the student thing and sole income but you'll eventually realize that true clients are going to pay an artist their asking price, just because they want to work with that particular artist. When you catch their eye with your art it is you they want, not someone else. That is the basis of "respect your work."
Honestly, if you are targetting bands or indie clothing companies, and youre promoting/selling your art via mintees -you wont ever get 500$. Therefore you have to have a "name" or really good references. So, 150-200$ is an abssolutely appropriate price. And discussing here is kind of annoying..
MStarkeyDesign said:I dont have the most established clientelle. I mostly work with indie brands and nationally touring bands all over. I dont have such clients who would see fit or be able to afford any more than that for my designs. I guess id rather charge less and sell then try and sell a design for months for a more reasonable price. What would you guys suggest?
Brock May said:Merkison take your drama and keep it in the talk section where you can continue to talk out of your ass without spamming posts in the tee section.
You wanna talk about someone talking out their ass and spamming? Read first before you spout your mouth, seeing as how I did nothing but answer a question asked by the person who posted the tee in response to why he wasn't "respecting his work." Come on Brock, you don't even want to start down that road. This is the first tee comment I've left in months, so no clue where you come up with some supposed spamming from my part. Go back to your squiggly drawings and let the big boys talk.
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nani3183 said about 10 months ago
MStarkeyDesign said about 10 months ago
bob_mosquito said about 11 months ago
TenTimesKarma said about 11 months ago
NN said about 11 months ago
i think it should be more than $150
Eky Glojor said about 11 months ago
Eky Glojor said about 11 months ago
deekin said about 11 months ago
CMHF Designs said about 11 months ago
For such talent, I agree.
MStarkeyDesign said about 10 months ago
Andrew Haines said about 10 months ago
Having more respect for your work
MStarkeyDesign said about 10 months ago
A.Merkison said about 11 months ago
He's talking about your pricing being astronomically low. "Bands unable to afford my work" isn't an excuse to sell so low. Absolute worst case, $200 should be a dead minimum with the work you're doing(and I even cringe at that figure). You're devaluing your work(which in a lot of cases devalues every other potential artist a band/brand you've worked with looks at) by offering such low rates, regardless of how fitting it is to so-and-so's budget. We'll assume most bands are a 4 piece(though now it seems like most are 5-6 piece but we'll use 4), $50 is excessively low per-person cost. If each individual cannot afford that, they shouldn't be purchasing new artwork.
Bottom line: don't sell yourself short. You should be getting paid for your work reasonably, as these musicians are getting paid reasonably for their work. Working at what really equates to slightly above minimum wage for artwork such as this is hurting you and all your fellow artists alike.
Andrew Haines said about 11 months ago
MStarkeyDesign said about 11 months ago
Mason
A.Merkison said about 11 months ago
I'd say the majority(probably 85-90%) of the artists around here don't have a set clientele. That doesn't mean they should undervalue themselves to make a buck. I understand the student thing and sole income but you'll eventually realize that true clients are going to pay an artist their asking price, just because they want to work with that particular artist. When you catch their eye with your art it is you they want, not someone else. That is the basis of "respect your work."
einiges said about 11 months ago
Brock May said about 11 months ago
fed said about 11 months ago
150 sounds over the top imo, 60-70 should be ok.
A.Merkison said about 10 months ago
You wanna talk about someone talking out their ass and spamming? Read first before you spout your mouth, seeing as how I did nothing but answer a question asked by the person who posted the tee in response to why he wasn't "respecting his work." Come on Brock, you don't even want to start down that road. This is the first tee comment I've left in months, so no clue where you come up with some supposed spamming from my part. Go back to your squiggly drawings and let the big boys talk.
MStarkeyDesign said about 11 months ago
vinbasshred said about 10 months ago
true. these guys are always full of hot air. back to the shirt, this design is great!