That is some hot shit for 50 bucks.

KolbyLee said: That is some hot shit for 50 bucks.

+ a billion

i think its a bad idea and will eventually make you look bad because of the recycling, yes i know its the idea but its only a matter of time until these businesses stop going to your site to purchase

bridawson said: Isn't that basically the business model of AKT's ____spin?

yes but that design is sold once, not numerous

Ray Frenden said: Look at how devalued photographers are by sites like iStock Photo.

I didn't really think of it that way. I agree with Frenden and EZ.

Ray Frenden said: I had a few chances to do stock sets for YWFT. I chose not to. Why hire artist X when artist X sells stock for a 1/3 the price? Stock, to generalize, hurts the industry. Look at how devalued photographers are by sites like iStock Photo.

I agree with EZ.

I don't think stock sites devalue the artists any more than people underselling themselves. I mean, $50 to do a shirt design that takes you 6-10 hours? That is what devalues the industry.

Free pitching parties (see the article in Computer Arts 148) devalue the industry.

When people buy stock art, they know they're not getting custom work and exclusive attention. That's why it's cheaper.

jfinley said:

Ray Frenden said: I had a few chances to do stock sets for YWFT. I chose not to. Why hire artist X when artist X sells stock for a 1/3 the price? Stock, to generalize, hurts the industry. Look at how devalued photographers are by sites like iStock Photo.

I agree with EZ.

I don't think stock sites devalue the artists any more than people underselling themselves. I mean, $50 to do a shirt design that takes you 6-10 hours? That is what devalues the industry.

Free pitching parties (see the article in Computer Arts 148) devalue the industry.

When people buy stock art, they know they're not getting custom work and exclusive attention. That's why it's cheaper.

yeah, I have to agree with this

and anyone looking at stock art in the first place isn't going to spend the money for a custom design anyway

well said finley.

I really like that. Would i have to put my name on it. ? and how many other people can use it. ?

I think a better Idea is to make a photoshop illustrator training video, with free project files, and teach some fishing, hear me. I'd be privileged to be under the tutelage of an experienced toot.

good one, quaker.

I think you can do what Ray is doing, video sessions of how you illustrate your stuffs.

Jimiyo does those already on the B log I was thinking like a photoshop secrets, type video series, vol.1 fundamentals of not sucking monkey balls or something.Vol2. Layers are called Layers because the order of them matters, or putting the horse before the art. Vol3. Jack and Jill went up the post to fetch a pail of sorry.

herman said:I think you can do what Ray is doing, video sessions of how you illustrate your stuffs.

i have some massive things in the works with that.

BTW, i have already done several. i posted the link here but it didnt capture much attention.
http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=2031765&PageIndex=1&ReplyCount=36

heavyprints said:Have you considered charging more for someone to have it exclusively for a period of time? Say 6 months? Just an idea.

another interesting thing to consider. this is just an intial test phase. i think stuff like your suggestion might fall out after a couple designs.

IF i continue to pursue this idea.

Hays said: I really like that. Would i have to put my name on it. ? and how many other people can use it. ?

1. no you dont have to put anything on it.
2. currently limitless, but no ones bitten the bait yet.

with #2, you give me an idea. i could put a total limit on the times its sold to decrease the likelihood of market saturation... although... really... that would be tough... saturation that is...

IamEZ said:its only a matter of time until these businesses stop going to your site to purchase

this comes from my desire to be a better artist. this design is actually quite old, although ive revised it. ive printed it and sold it.

i dont want to print and sell shirts anymore. i just want to do art. MASSIVE quantities of art.

so i figure if i come out with a fresh design ever so often, maybe people will come back. market saturation... takes a long while when there are potentially thousands of people.

just like gomedia. i bet they still get customers buying their old stock vectors, but also to continue getting new customers, theyll have to make new vectors. i believe they said they were coming out with new vectors. like robots? something more 2008?

thats what i will do if i pursue this idea.

Ray Frenden said:Why hire artist X when artist X sells stock for a 1/3 the price?

im an artist, but im trying to become an artist business man. i know you probably have some idea as well that lingers on "man... design shirt... sell shirt... one time payment... i dont want to keep doing designs for the rest of my life"

right? im sure you love designing, but as an artist, i feel like the key to happiness/success is being able to do what you want without having to pander to a client. certainly after you gain some fame, people come to you and you can do what mostly you want, but still...

this idea is so i can earn money while i sleep. i dont always want to have to do client work. essentially i want to earn freedom. although sometimes its fun... its not an efficient use of ones time to continually work to be a designer.

now to sell your own art... yes. this is just one avenue.

more said:make ur own tees and keep them as ur own brand/identity!

i want to draw. not sell tshirts, and theres alot to do to get a tshirt line going. ive been there, done that. i dont want to bother with it right now. ive made over 15+ high end designs. it was taking off, but it was alot of work to market it, sell it online, etc etc. one man show too... real hard to recapture time to draw.