http://mintees.com/tees/354092-all-play-no-work-by-tangyauhoong-malaysia

so this tee makes it on to the site but this tee http://mintees.com/tees/354230-nero-s-booth

gets rejected, due to the "subjective opinion of the mintees curators" .......

Explain.

121 Comments

  • William Henry

    The community decides what gets approved and what doesn't. If I had to guess, it seems that design4europe is on auto approve for some reason.
  • Anthony Smith

    Bit of a dick move to put down someone elses work just because yours wasnt accepted. Real classy.

    Maybe you could give a reason as to why you think your design is 'too cool not to share', as I personally do not see it.
  • William Henry

    Anthony Smith said:Bit of a dick move to put down someone elses work just because yours wasnt accepted. Real classy.

    Maybe you could give a reason as to why you think your design is 'too cool not to share', as I personally do not see it.

    Total dick move.
  • Kins

    So be it i'm a dick.
    But thats just your subjective opinion. Am i right?
  • Bedlam77

    sounds like you started this thread on your subjective opinion.
  • atomicchild

    all art is subjective opinion that is why things like this can never get a real answer....and just remember mintees is a tiny tiny part of the t shirt game
  • Kins

    The second were not ok with putting down someone else's work is the moment that our profession becomes a joke.
  • Kins

    I know that art is subjective, but that doesnt mean that all of it is good.
    Not saying that the Design4europes design is bad, because Im sure it hits a target market.

    But it is definitely ok to say that market is not the kind of the "Mintees Curators"
  • William Henry

    Kins said:The second were not ok with putting down someone else's work is the moment that our profession becomes a joke.

    Nobody said you couldn't put down someone else's work, but its a dick move to single out a design and ask why it got approved while yours didn't.
  • Bedlam77

    why does the second link just go to the current tees page.
  • migy

    Bedlam77 said:why does the second link just go to the current tees page.
  • Kins

    migy said:
    Bedlam77 said:why does the second link just go to the current tees page.


  • Kins

    William Henry said:
    Kins said:The second were not ok with putting down someone else's work is the moment that our profession becomes a joke.

    Nobody said you couldn't put down someone else's work, but its a dick move to single out a design and ask why it got approved while yours didn't.

    I gave reason to my question and I used an example. Seems valid.
    I never said the tee was bad... you did actually.
  • Bedlam77

    just from a current trend standpoint hand drawn stuff seems to be where its at right now. was yours commissioned and approved, or just an example of your work?
  • migy

    Rather than commenting on his action, why not concentrate on the artwork he posted.
    There's also a thread for this - http://mintees.com/talk/194684-official-critiques-wanted-post

    I like the tee from design4europe. The tee you posted isn't something I would wear.
    Rather than getting mad against the mintees curators, I would suggest to take a second look at your design.
  • Kins

    justinjuno said:It may be frustrating at times, but I don't have a problem with the current approval process. However, this post isn't going to improve the design in question or be of any benefit to the community.

    That being said, grab a pencil, some paper, and keep moving forward.

    If you are looking for ways to improve the current design, post it in the critiques thread.

    I am not mad, just wanting clarification, and thats what this post is doing.
  • dayanstudios

    I'm not complaining but I was also wondering the same thing. I posted a tee so I could get the opinions of others here, but its not possible if the design is rejected with no explanation. I went down the list of why it could 'possibly' be denied and none of the reasons fit me. I'm just confused because there was no specific reason given. Are we not suppose to have any bible verses on a tee? It was a design for a Christian group. (Only thing I can come up with).
  • DanielAndHisArt

    William Henry said:The community decides what gets approved and what doesn't. If I had to guess, it seems that design4europe is on auto approve for some reason.

    he's not on auto.
  • William Henry

    Kins said:
    William Henry said:
    Kins said:The second were not ok with putting down someone else's work is the moment that our profession becomes a joke.

    Nobody said you couldn't put down someone else's work, but its a dick move to single out a design and ask why it got approved while yours didn't.

    I gave reason to my question and I used an example. Seems valid.
    I never said the tee was bad... you did actually.

    So wait, you're saying that by singling out a design and asking why it got approved while yours didn't isn't saying the tee is bad? Why single out a specific design then? Why not just ask why yours didn't get approved.
  • Paul Granese

    dayanstudios said:I'm not complaining but I was also wondering the same thing. I posted a tee so I could get the opinions of others here, but its not possible if the design is rejected with no explanation. I went down the list of why it could 'possibly' be denied and none of the reasons fit me. I'm just confused because there was no specific reason given. Are we not suppose to have any bible verses on a tee? It was a design for a Christian group. (Only thing I can come up with).

    No one on here owes you or anyone who gets their design rejected an explanation. And no, your design didn't get rejected because it was for a christian group. Post it in the critiques thread.
  • dayanstudios

    That's good to know they are accepted. So I guess I'll remain confused since they gave no explanation.
  • dayanstudios

    Paul, what is your problem..? I'm not saying it in a demanding way but there is a list of possible reasons and If I know which one it is then i could go back and make the right changes for a re-post.
  • DanielAndHisArt

    dayanstudios said:That's good to know they are accepted. So I guess I'll remain confused since they gave no explanation.

    Did you read the email?

    If you couldn't figure it out from that, then post it in the critique thread. or post it here and ill tell you why it was rejected.
  • Paul Granese

    You do know there are other ways to get your work critiqued other than Mintees, right? Like I said, post it in the critiques thread.
  • Kins

    @William Henry

    Because asking why my tee didnt get approved brings about answers like "The community decides what gets approved and what doesn't." and this. "It may be frustrating at times, but I don't have a problem with the current approval process.
    And showing an example gives me answers like this "just from a current trend standpoint hand drawn stuff seems to be where its at right now."

    And no comparing the tee to mine doesnt me mine is better, of course it looks that way. But in reality, I went down the tees pages and picked the first one that looked as if it shouldn't be approved amongst all of the other tees that did get approved, and the reason it stands out is mostly because of the mock up.

    Anyways, some one out there is buying that tee, so me saying it is bad or good doesnt really matter, I am asking why it got approved when the tees getting approved around it are very different.
  • Paul Granese

    dayanstudios said:Paul, what is your problem..? I'm not saying it in a demanding way but there is a list of possible reasons and If I know which one it is then i could go back and make the right changes for a re-post.

    I don't have a problem at all. Mintees isn't art school.
    Design good shit, get your stuff accepted on here. Bottom line.

    Paul Granese said: post it in the critiques thread.
  • HarryDiaz

    dayanstudios said:Paul, what is your problem..? I'm not saying it in a demanding way but there is a list of possible reasons and If I know which one it is then i could go back and make the right changes for a re-post.

    Step #1 on ways to get your tee approved is getting an avatar.
  • Matt Borchert

    If you don't like the system here go elsewhere, or start your own website to share designs. Nothing here is stopping you from doing what you love to do.
  • Kins

    Matt Borchert said:If you don't like the system here go elsewhere, or start your own website to share designs. Nothing here is stopping you from doing what you love to do.

    Problem solved, coding it now.
  • Matt Borchert

    Kins said:
    Matt Borchert said:If you don't like the system here go elsewhere, or start your own website to share designs. Nothing here is stopping you from doing what you love to do.

    Problem solved, coding it now.

    I was looking over your website and it seems that overall you are a solid designer and know what you're up to. I wouldn't take a tee rejection personally here, it could be something pretty small in the grand scheme of things that prevents it from getting through...even just the way it happened to be mocked up or the mood of the mods when it was submitted. I would just give it a day to think about it and then look at it again and see if you see any possible changes. If not, screw em' and move forward.
  • Kins

    Just passionate about this shit.
  • jared

    Kins said:Just passionate about this shit.

    Mintees is here for passionate people, we're glad you're here! The approval voting process goes by thumbs up/down from multiple users in most cases. It is very possible you got one more thumbs down than up and it was just a tie breaker scenario.

    Try not to assume too much about who makes the calls, though mods can force approve or reject certain tees at any point.
  • Kins

    jared said:
    Kins said:Just passionate about this shit.

    Mintees is here for passionate people, we're glad you're here! The approval voting process goes by thumbs up/down from multiple users in most cases. It is very possible you got one more thumbs down than up and it was just a tie breaker scenario.

    Try not to assume too much about who makes the calls, though mods can force approve or reject certain tees at any point.

    Thanks for your response mate.
  • sharksinyermouth

    Matt Borchert said:
    Kins said:
    Matt Borchert said:If you don't like the system here go elsewhere, or start your own website to share designs. Nothing here is stopping you from doing what you love to do.

    Problem solved, coding it now.

    I was looking over your website and it seems that overall you are a solid designer and know what you're up to. I wouldn't take a tee rejection personally here, it could be something pretty small in the grand scheme of things that prevents it from getting through...even just the way it happened to be mocked up or the mood of the mods when it was submitted. I would just give it a day to think about it and then look at it again and see if you see any possible changes. If not, screw em' and move forward.

    Your website is good and full of solid work for sure.
  • Brock May

    Your butthurt because the community didn't think your work was up to par (and in my opinion in similar style to what you where working on) it seems tacky and not up to par to what you used to post. Instead of making a thread and starting drama about the approval system, perhaps you should consulted yourself and figure out what you need to approve on with your new work instead of being a crybaby about it.
  • Obscure

    Brock May said:Your butthurt because the community didn't think your work was up to par (and in my opinion in similar style to what you where working on) it seems tacky and not up to par to what you used to post. Instead of making a thread and starting drama about the approval system, perhaps you should consulted yourself and figure out what you need to approve on with your new work instead of being a crybaby about it.

    Boom boom shake the room. Pretty sure when Mintees started you made the same thread. Anyway Kins should be pissed if it keeps happening but as jared said it seems like it might just be an on the fence situation cos the design aint that bad at all.
  • Brock May

    Obscure said:
    Brock May said:Your butthurt because the community didn't think your work was up to par (and in my opinion in similar style to what you where working on) it seems tacky and not up to par to what you used to post. Instead of making a thread and starting drama about the approval system, perhaps you should consulted yourself and figure out what you need to approve on with your new work instead of being a crybaby about it.

    Boom boom shake the room. Pretty sure when Mintees started you made the same thread. Anyway Kins should be pissed if it keeps happening but as jared said it seems like it might just be an on the fence situation cos the design aint that bad at all.

    yea, and then I realized I had to better myself, end of story. Small realizations like that are simple to achieve and take less time to do then typing up a thread complaining about it, I wished I had that figured out back when I was bitching.
  • Killer Napkins

    you kknow how many times a person gets singled out on this website, just for not posting correctly in the forums?!.. it is fucking ridiculous.. and it is ridiculous to be in an uproar about someone saying something negative about another design, because that shit happens constantly. And as long as you are on the same side of the mob, you aren't going to get your name smeared into the ground.
  • Cameron Latham

    Killer Napkins said:you kknow how many times a person gets singled out on this website, just for not posting correctly in the forums?!.. it is fucking ridiculous.. and it is ridiculous to be in an uproar about someone saying something negative about another design, because that shit happens constantly. And as long as you are on the same side of the mob, you aren't going to get your name smeared into the ground.

    This. I don't bother to submit anything here anymore because I'm almost certain that it'll be rejected for whatever reason. It's clear that I'm not alone in this. My work is definitely up to the standards of this site as I got TOTD just last week. The worst stuff gets accepted and leaves me, and clearly a lot of others, shaking their head wondering "How the fuck...?". Of course, it's up to the mods/admins and art is subjective and all that. I just don't think it's wrong to state the obvious that some of the work that gets accepted is straight garbage compared to some that aren't.

    It's obvious that there's a bit of a split between the big name designers and the up-and-comers. Big names get accepted, sometimes automatically, while if you're an up-and-comer, you have to wait and wonder. Yes, I understand that there's a critique thread, but why would you feel encouraged to again post your work on the site that rejected it? Being critiqued and picked apart is growth, of course, but I don't think this community promotes this growth as much as it thinks it does.

    I don't mean to cause an uproar or drama or seem whiny at all. I like the community for the most part and will continue to participate in it, but I know where this dude's coming from; regardless of the way he brought it up.
  • William Henry

    Cameron.MidnightSociety said:
    Killer Napkins said:you kknow how many times a person gets singled out on this website, just for not posting correctly in the forums?!.. it is fucking ridiculous.. and it is ridiculous to be in an uproar about someone saying something negative about another design, because that shit happens constantly. And as long as you are on the same side of the mob, you aren't going to get your name smeared into the ground.

    This. I don't bother to submit anything here anymore because I'm almost certain that it'll be rejected for whatever reason. It's clear that I'm not alone in this. My work is definitely up to the standards of this site as I got TOTD just last week. The worst stuff gets accepted and leaves me, and clearly a lot of others, shaking their head wondering "How the fuck...?". Of course, it's up to the mods/admins and art is subjective and all that. I just don't think it's wrong to state the obvious that some of the work that gets accepted is straight garbage compared to some that aren't.

    It's obvious that there's a bit of a split between the big name designers and the up-and-comers. Big names get accepted, sometimes automatically, while if you're an up-and-comer, you have to wait and wonder. Yes, I understand that there's a critique thread, but why would you feel encouraged to again post your work on the site that rejected it? Being critiqued and picked apart is growth, of course, but I don't think this community promotes this growth as much as it thinks it does.

    I don't mean to cause an uproar or drama or seem whiny at all. I like the community for the most part and will continue to participate in it, but I know where this dude's coming from; regardless of the way he brought it up.

    Theres no bias when it comes to larger name designers. Most are set on auto approve because they have consistently shown that their work is good enough to be on the site. A newer user has to go through the approval process because nobody knows what the quality of their work will be. If that user consistently posts good work, they too will be set to auto approve. Theres no conspiracy. Post awesome work and it will get on the site, thats it.

    Your work is rad, you should post more.
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