Damn, I thought this dude was awesome. I had like 5 of his designs actually tattooed on me.

I've seen the original skull flash somewhere, but I can't seem to find it right now. Anyways, pretty similar...

Killer Napkins said:Damn, I thought this dude was awesome.

dobi said:i'm just waiting for his response and then he is gone. this is laughable.

Skull With Hair said:weird, he's from Indonesia.

The originality capital of the world? Surely you're mistaken...

oh boy..

His artwork changed from terrible 'BrOtaLz' designs to traditional tattoo style in like a day. Was fairly obvious something was fishy but high five Robson!!

aww, Jim Sylvia emailed me this morning, (did the awesome poison heart tattoo) whoever passed on the thread THANKYOU! hope it blows up and Adi Hydrant gets his name DRAGGED.

anchored by land said:That tattoo was a somthign they gave me to use.

It's the job of the designer to inform the client of what they can and cannot do, and to come up with something similar yet original to fit the clients needs.

I was new . and clearly not knowledgeable ,i tried my best to stay away from it.I learned from that mistake and moved on . i hve definatly learned alot since i last did design wich was over a year and a half ago. i only put it up here so they could get more sales

Edgil School of design grad

What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

Lmerrill said:What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

Let me preface this by saying that I obviously don't have a crystal clear picture of what the culture/society is like in Indonesia BUT from what I've gathered over the years, this kind of thing just isn't looked down up on in that part of the world. There are no laws against it there (Or the laws are not enforced) and it just isn't seen as theft or wrong in their society. In their mind it's perfectly acceptable to take artwork off the internet and use it for their own purposes. I think that's why when you confront so many of these rippers, they just don't understand that what they are doing is even wrong. They were most likely never taught otherwise.

And if that's the case, then you can see how they would think that tracing artwork is even MORE ok because, hey, they actually made it "their own." They put some actual "work" into it rather than just copying & pasting, haha.

I don't mean to make assumptions but that's just what I've gleaned from watching the ridiculousness coming out of that country over the last few years. If I'm wrong maybe one of the Indonesian members can clarify. I would actually love to hear their point of view on why artwork theft and bootlegging is so rampant there.

Lmerrill said:What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

stop talking about racism don't start a drama, it's just about a man from the earth who ripping another man from the earth, my brain is full of fuck if you text about in do nesia..

lineart3angle said:

Lmerrill said:What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

stop talking about racism don't start a drama, it's just about a man from the earth who ripping another man from the earth, my brain is full of fuck if you text about in do nesia..

i think they're just making the point that the amount of tracing and ripping that comes from there is like insane, and are curious about if it's a cultural thing as to why they don't look down on tracing artwork. there is clearly a cultural difference in the way they view artwork. it would be racist to call an indonesian a ripper simply because they are indonesian, but to simply make an observation about a culture's stereotypes with good reason is not racist.

lineart3angle said:

Lmerrill said:What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

stop talking about racism don't start a drama, it's just about a man from the earth who ripping another man from the earth, my brain is full of fuck if you text about in do nesia..

This is actually the type of reaction that could encourage racists responses from minteers. I've seen it happen before. In no way, was what I said, a racist comment by any means. All I'm saying is that if you look purely at the numbers of rippers from around the world, since the beginning of Emptees and/or Mintees, we wouldn't be at all surprised to see that a good majority of them were in fact from indonesia. Just an observation, and my comment was purely cultural, as I mentioned a country, not a race...

I see, I'm sorry dudes.

lineart3angle said:

Lmerrill said:What kind of alternate universe is indonesia, that this is acceptable? Sure, it happens elsewhere also, but the amount of ripping from indonesia is outrageous.

stop talking about racism don't start a drama, it's just about a man from the earth who ripping another man from the earth, my brain is full of fuck if you text about in do nesia..

It's culturalism, not racism. We're all of the same race. And my brain is full of fuck most of the time, anyway.

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

honestly, you have drawing ability, you just need to learn that you can't just redraw other people's stuff and call it original.

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

For someone you "respects the artists", you have a funny way of showing it. Never knew that ripping someone was a way of showing respect. It doesn't matter if you didn't do a direct trace of their work. Doing your own versions of their designs does not make what you did okay. You ripped their original ideas.

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

What you are doing is wrong, no matter how you try to spin it. You CANNOT steal someone else's artwork and concept, regardless if you redraw it (almost exactly the same) or not. It's wrong, and you will never become a respected artist doing that.

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

sit on it and spin. adios.

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

Wasn't there a .gif on the first page of an exact trace? They're literally all the exact same thing except the banners. Unless he's measuring shit out, he's tracing hands down

Andrew Haines said:

rumble AD. said:hey friends,if you think this was unfair,ok i am ready to be deleted.but is this the different case?, i dont trace straight from it i draw it as the new design. please reconsider that.and i dont use the "exactly" the same as the tattoo.(i did this because i respect all the artist)
to craig: i really sorry that i have talk shit to you lately.
i am ready to leave this site because of this.

thanks for all.

peace!

Wasn't there a .gif on the first page of an exact trace? They're literally all the exact same thing except the banners. Unless he's measuring shit out, he's tracing hands down

I think in his mind since he is tracing over it, it's not stealing. A strange viewpoint indeed.

damn even that Asian chick one is a tattoo rip except he tweaked it a bit.

crazy how someone can actually think like that, take another idea, trace/jedi mind trace and say they were inspired too.

infact kick the fucker out,

How come this guy is still here? Delete his Ass already.

leave it up like the rotting head of Ned Stark so others may know that no one can oppose the King Mintees fuck really people the whole thing falls to shit with a crappy name we should have called this place muderholedotfuck

quakerninja said:leave it up like the rotting head of Ned Stark so others may know that no one can oppose the King Mintees fuck really people the whole thing falls to shit with a crappy name we should have called this place muderholedotfuck

i was going to edit some of his tees w/ RIP stamps on them but that is too much work. good riddance.

dobi said:i was going to edit some of his tees w/ RIP stamps on them but that is too much work. good riddance.

This guy seems a little fishy too. Can't say he has ripped anything yet, but something's just not quite right about him.
http://mintees.com/people/206576-nlk

Hmmm.

http://mintees.com/tees/349734-stbd-hc

http://mintees.com/tees/352654-go-hard

dobi said:i was going to edit some of his tees w/ RIP stamps on them but that is too much work. good riddance.

uuhhh.... del taco?

Tom Philibeck said:This guy seems a little fishy too. Can't say he has ripped anything yet, but something's just not quite right about him.
http://mintees.com/people/206576-nlk

Hey kid! what your problem with this guy! he's not a ripper or whatever, your so jealous right!

ashworx said:

Tom Philibeck said:This guy seems a little fishy too. Can't say he has ripped anything yet, but something's just not quite right about him.
http://mintees.com/people/206576-nlk

Hey kid! what your problem with this guy! he's not a ripper or whatever, your so jealous right!

alexpolicastro said:Hmmm.

http://mintees.com/tees/349734-stbd-hc

http://mintees.com/tees/352654-go-hard

Uhhh ashworx, did you not see THAT comparison?

alexpolicastro said:Hmmm.

http://mintees.com/tees/349734-stbd-hc

http://mintees.com/tees/352654-go-hard

classic.

ashworx said:

Tom Philibeck said:This guy seems a little fishy too. Can't say he has ripped anything yet, but something's just not quite right about him.
http://mintees.com/people/206576-nlk

Hey kid! what your problem with this guy! he's not a ripper or whatever, your so jealous right!

fake account?

i think so ^

Don't know if you'd call him a ripper, I think his style is definitely close enough to Craig's to look like a knock off and his subject matter is copied from others but it doesn't look like he's tracing like rumble ad? But yeah definitely something fishy there!

EDIT:
That being said i'd be pissed if I were Craig!