MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

I just wish they were wise enough to try and 'capitalize on the younger market' by doing something innovative with substance.

I have no opinion on the company and what they are doing other than the dudes who were on warped tour were cool to me. But to your point...I dont think people care about substance when they're buying graphic t-shirts.

I do believe that certain people search for substance when buying graphic tees; take MTG for example. I buy their graphic tees because they actually mean something; It's not just plain ol' fads. BUT, everyone is right I guess, that's what the kids want, it's just not what I respect in a brand so my opinion is obscured. But whatever, I don't even care and I'm sure as hell not going to argue over it, haha. I'm out.

Not arguing, so please dont take it as such. Most people are not t-shirt enthusiasts hanging out on design forums. Most people (not all) dont need their t-shirt to have some deep obscure meaning. Most people just buy shit they think looks cool.

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

I just wish they were wise enough to try and 'capitalize on the younger market' by doing something innovative with substance.

I have no opinion on the company and what they are doing other than the dudes who were on warped tour were cool to me. But to your point...I dont think people care about substance when they're buying graphic t-shirts.

I do believe that certain people search for substance when buying graphic tees; take MTG for example. I buy their graphic tees because they actually mean something; It's not just plain ol' fads. BUT, everyone is right I guess, that's what the kids want, it's just not what I respect in a brand so my opinion is obscured. But whatever, I don't even care and I'm sure as hell not going to argue over it, haha. I'm out.

Not arguing, so please dont take it as such. Most people are not t-shirt enthusiasts hanging out on design forums. Most people (not all) dont need their t-shirt to have some deep obscure meaning. Most people just buy shit they think looks cool.

Yea, you're absolutely right man. I guess I just like "different cool looking things" then, haha. I've always been huge on putting tons of thought and meaning into my concepts so it's not odd that I'd view the situation this way.

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

I just wish they were wise enough to try and 'capitalize on the younger market' by doing something innovative with substance.

I have no opinion on the company and what they are doing other than the dudes who were on warped tour were cool to me. But to your point...I dont think people care about substance when they're buying graphic t-shirts.

I do believe that certain people search for substance when buying graphic tees; take MTG for example. I buy their graphic tees because they actually mean something; It's not just plain ol' fads. BUT, everyone is right I guess, that's what the kids want, it's just not what I respect in a brand so my opinion is obscured. But whatever, I don't even care and I'm sure as hell not going to argue over it, haha. I'm out.

Not arguing, so please dont take it as such. Most people are not t-shirt enthusiasts hanging out on design forums. Most people (not all) dont need their t-shirt to have some deep obscure meaning. Most people just buy shit they think looks cool.

Yea, you're absolutely right man. I guess I just like "different cool looking things" then, haha. I've always been huge on putting tons of thought and meaning into my concepts so it's not odd that I'd view the situation this way.

No one cares.

Divine Beast said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

I just wish they were wise enough to try and 'capitalize on the younger market' by doing something innovative with substance.

I have no opinion on the company and what they are doing other than the dudes who were on warped tour were cool to me. But to your point...I dont think people care about substance when they're buying graphic t-shirts.

I do believe that certain people search for substance when buying graphic tees; take MTG for example. I buy their graphic tees because they actually mean something; It's not just plain ol' fads. BUT, everyone is right I guess, that's what the kids want, it's just not what I respect in a brand so my opinion is obscured. But whatever, I don't even care and I'm sure as hell not going to argue over it, haha. I'm out.

Not arguing, so please dont take it as such. Most people are not t-shirt enthusiasts hanging out on design forums. Most people (not all) dont need their t-shirt to have some deep obscure meaning. Most people just buy shit they think looks cool.

Yea, you're absolutely right man. I guess I just like "different cool looking things" then, haha. I've always been huge on putting tons of thought and meaning into my concepts so it's not odd that I'd view the situation this way.

No one cares.

Love you.

MattyVF said:

Divine Beast said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

CoreyMV said:

MattyVF said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

I just wish they were wise enough to try and 'capitalize on the younger market' by doing something innovative with substance.

I have no opinion on the company and what they are doing other than the dudes who were on warped tour were cool to me. But to your point...I dont think people care about substance when they're buying graphic t-shirts.

I do believe that certain people search for substance when buying graphic tees; take MTG for example. I buy their graphic tees because they actually mean something; It's not just plain ol' fads. BUT, everyone is right I guess, that's what the kids want, it's just not what I respect in a brand so my opinion is obscured. But whatever, I don't even care and I'm sure as hell not going to argue over it, haha. I'm out.

Not arguing, so please dont take it as such. Most people are not t-shirt enthusiasts hanging out on design forums. Most people (not all) dont need their t-shirt to have some deep obscure meaning. Most people just buy shit they think looks cool.

Yea, you're absolutely right man. I guess I just like "different cool looking things" then, haha. I've always been huge on putting tons of thought and meaning into my concepts so it's not odd that I'd view the situation this way.

No one cares.

Love you.

Love you too babe

All seems pretty ridiculous to me... and when you're getting those high volume of orders to ship out... use a dedicated courier! Forget the post office.

Their customer service is fucking shit. Months ago I had an issue with them, waited 3 months for shit which they said they'd restock and never did, told me they would give me a refund and a free shirt w/ shipping, was shafted to 4 different representatives over that period and in the end only got a refund. Never have, nor will I, shop with them again. I recommend you do the same. Their arrogance is more predominant than any thing else in that brand.

popmonkey said:

miles to go said:I can't speak forntheir shipping service but Jordan is a friend of mine in real life. We run our brands in totally different ways and for a dude that's 20, he is trying to capitalize on the younger market and has done well. I'm guessing with all of the tour sponsorships which he said he doesn't want to do again, maybe they over spent and do sales to try and get cash to reprint things but keep them in stock on the site even if it's out which would explain the terrible turnaround for shipments. I know they switched to shopify and hated it. He is a young dude trying to work the hustle and regardless of your stance on him, he has done a good job of getting the brand out there. I don't sponsor any bands for reasons Kyle has gone on in depth about but I run my line how I want and he is still figuring out how to get the machine running smoothly. The amount of sales they get is pretty crazy.

A voice of reason. How rare. I'm chalking it up to growing pains, sure, and I know they're doing everything they can to keep business running smoothly. It's inevitable, but of course they're going to get crucified for it. Especially here on Mintees where some of the squeakier wheels can be especially... less than mature and sympathetic human beings.
I own two Arkaik shirts. They're great designs with excellent quality, and they arrived quite quickly. I'm sure they'll overcome this bump in the road.

You're reasonable take on the matter is going to cause Mintees to fucking implode.

http://www.theelectriczombie.com/killsite/blog.php

Well said. Pretty much summed up my view point. I mean comon, the direction is getting more and more commercial every release. "Pinch it, Slap it" really though?

There are a few of us on here who do apparel full time, it's our living, and we know the cost breakdowns and getting orders out and the insanity of the deadlines and misprints and vendors not completing their end, be it blanks or actual print jobs.

No one who actually does it day in day out can knock what Kyle is saying, he knows his stuff. Gotta respect the hustle.

IMO you can't teach someone to be a smart and intuitive business person. You can teach them to be better, yes, but you either have it in you or you don't. A degree will never change that up, I've seen people with masters from freaking Berkley flub presentations like a 6th grader showing their science project.

I'm not saying I agree with his business methods or how the brand is run. On a personal level in real life, outside of the brand persona he portrays he is a nice guy. It's a matter of trying to get to big too fast. You can lose respect for me if you want and I'm not trying to be everybody's friend here. As you said with electric zombie, you run things and have a hand in every aspect ofnthe brand as I do and we run our brands how we choose. I'm not telling people they should buy more or support the brand for any special reason. His marketing methods and my own are on opposite sides of the spectrum. Regardless of his methods, they built brand awareness quickly. I know the break downs of cost and I think those coupons are crazy too. I tried to supply a realistic reason for why they probably take forever to ship. That doesn't mean I advocate the methods or use it for my own line. To each his own. I have no financial stake in any of this and if he does well or fails doesn't change anything. When inwas at their office a few weeks ago I saw how he is on twitter 24/7 and I tweet at him in regards to not knowing how he handles it because in one day of heavy social media, it wore me out and you felt it was your place to tell me not to do that or give him props. Obviously this is a personal problem younhave with him and i would rather you keep me out of it.

I will continue to run my brand how I have and if you lost respect over something like this, than so be it. I'm not going to lose sleep over it and we have worked together and I dig your brand, have bought items, etc but I don't care enough about this topic to continue this further than this.

Patrick said:

Best.

Kyle Crawford said:http://www.theelectriczombie.com/killsite/blog.php

Thanks for calling me out in a blog Kyle. Pretty cool.

not really calling you out, but if you dont want to be quoted on your defense on him, then you shouldnt have said it. you should know how i am by now. your comment fired me up and I gave reason behind it so i stated that in the beginning, but yet im the bad guy for not really "talking shit" but saying exactly my thoughts and opinions every single time. I'm not going be the little bitch who says it behind your back and everyone elses.

there's no bad mouthing you.
I just cant believe you can side with him, when you do the hard work that you do.
give props to whatever, respect whatever, but if i dont like it, im just not going to sit here and pretend like i do

Nice morning read. Goodmorning everyone-

How you think I'm siding with him or the brand is crazy. People don't understand why their product takes forever and i offer a possible reason. I know how you are but if that's how younwant to do this, fine. Blast away but you are acting like I wave an arkaik flag and it's just misguided. I have never said I agree with how they do things. And, all of this hate toward me is over a tweet? I get tweeting back to me but a dedicated blog post calling me out as an advocate for their brand is stupid.

defending him, and giving him props is what started it, not the tweet. Lets keep arguing!

Kyle Crawford said:defending him, and giving him props is what started it, not the tweet. Lets keep arguing!

I'm over it. I woke up at 4am to start mail order and I'm going back to work. You dont like him, i dont care enough or have a reason to argue about this. Carry on.

Meh.

I don't really get involved with how other clothing companies decide to conduct their business because it's not my place to tell them how to run their company, regardless if it is considered ethical or unethical practice. I choose not to buy from certain companies simply because their products aren't what I'm interested in fashion-wise or they associate themselves with other entities that contrast with my personal views.

It seems as if Arkaik is more purely set on getting their name out there regardless of the advertising outlet. I personally, decided not to purchase anything from them ever since they decided to be associated with IsAnyoneUp.com. I think that website is completely disrespectful when it comes to personal privacy and believe that it's only a matter of time before someone can't cope with the fact their photos are published online and they decide to physically harm themselves. It's a really unfortunate situation and I for one would never want my brand to be associated with that or any other organization or company that operates and profits through such unethical practices. Don't get me wrong, I hope that my brand could sell half of the product they do under different circumstances, but I think Arkaik should focus more on the quality of advertisement rather than the quantity.

What's the thing behind isanyoneup.com? I'm at work, so since it sounds suspect, I won't be checking it here.

its a dude who posts nudie cell phone pics. pretty much the jist of it really

isanyoneup.com is a constant reminder how how stupid everyone is

skaymus said:I've never been a big fan of them either, but I always jump at the chance to get American Apparel threads for $10. So when I saw the 50% off I figured I may as well order them. I figured with all the publicity they get they should at least be a decent company. I'm moderately fucking pissed though.

Yep pretty much the same deal for me, when it's AA and it's that cheap I'll order. Been waiting 5+ weeks since something should have been shipped. Feel extremely let down.

Kyle Crawford said:defending him, and giving him props is what started it, not the tweet. Lets keep arguing!

Find it kind of ironic that someone is bashing another company for their slow service and not fulfilling orders when it is coming from someone who doesn't fill their own orders and doesn't know what is it like to have to fill 250 orders, then the second you finish you have to start again with another 150. It never ends (in a good way).
To go after greg from Miles To Go is pathetic on your part. Greg runs his line better then anyone I know. Fills a ton of orders everyday and replies to emails fast and is very personalized. A lot more then the wana be "customer service" replies that are filled with "email MerchNOW they handle that".
I am not defending Arkaik cause I don't know them but I am defending Greg because he is a better person then you and runs his business 10 times better then you ever will.

Time Without the E said:

Kyle Crawford said:defending him, and giving him props is what started it, not the tweet. Lets keep arguing!

Find it kind of ironic that someone is bashing another company for their slow service and not fulfilling orders when it is coming from someone who doesn't fill their own orders and doesn't know what is it like to have to fill 250 orders, then the second you finish you have to start again with another 150. It never ends (in a good way).
To go after greg from Miles To Go is pathetic on your part. Greg runs his line better then anyone I know. Fills a ton of orders everyday and replies to emails fast and is very personalized. A lot more then the wana be "customer service" replies that are filled with "email MerchNOW they handle that".
I am not defending Arkaik cause I don't know them but I am defending Greg because he is a better person then you and runs his business 10 times better then you ever will.

i appreciate the defense tim, but its all good. no need to keep this going. we run our companies, all of us including kyle, myself, jordan and you how we see fit and it works how it works for each of us. although kyle doesnt ship his orders and a fulfillment company does, i know he works just as hard as any of us on his line. i was initially annoyed to be name dropped on a blog like i am a huge arkaik supporter priasing everything they do, but at the end of the day, i just dont care.

Cool tim. me expressing what fired me up to write the blog is in no means bashing. but lets get something straight, at least Im not some fucking vagina filling peoples ears with giggles and hearsays and I say when i think feel it because thats as much of a man I can be on the internet. you on the other hand can watch your fucking mouth about me. I never ever bashed greg as a business person or his business. Im not going to make up some fake name or have this FAKE arguement with myself, monkey pop said it was a voice of reason, its unrealistic. I respect greg in every means and way possible. but dont go and calling me a fucking less of a man than him for stating facts and opinions. until you know what youre talking about, dont take a side.

as far as my responses to people to email merch now, yea its their fucking problem. Im not going to go hunt down merch now employees and ask them and be this customer service middle man, the whole reason why merch now does it, is so I dont have to, so when someone asks, thats the answer I give. Doesnt know what it's like to fill orders? Really, since you know my entire Electric Zombie Life story, you would have remembered the KARMA LOOP chapter, you know when they give free shipping but thats because the brands have to ship it themselves? I did that for 6 months, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ITS LIKE? weird, I guess you're right.

and lose my screen name and dont ever shoot the shit to me about anything ever. It's pathetic that you hide your bullshit shit talk behind my back and have no problems talking about shit, even though its been months, maybe even a year. that is pathetic not me "so called" calling out greg

oh, and I went ahead and took out the supposed bashing of greg and completely took him out of it all together since some people took it the wrong way. sorry if I thought someone who I respect who really embraces what its like to be a brand owner, ships, goes to trade shows, prints, does all the fucking hard work, can DEFEND and "respect" someone who is a "personal friend" and respect his "hustle" and "success". while i respect your feelings and opinions, doesnt mean i have to like it, and I went ahead and made it known i dont like, through blogs, through tweets and through emails.

Having fol5lowed this brand for sometime i think kyles being a bit harsh you people say hes trying Arkaik have gone past trying they are doing it and just getting started . I believe they are just in the middle of changing there web site .But considering Arkaik have 4000 - 5000 orders to process a month i think they are doing great big up Jordan and the team

Their shop was frozen



Or was this already reported?

its just while they change servers will be up and running soon as

Kyle, you didn't need to take my name out of the post. I'm not bothered by it anymore. That lasted a whole hour and hey, it maybe got some of your readers to hear the name of my company.

Gotta say after contacting the guys last night totally agree with Greg on this. I won't lie I was pretty pissed but Jordan handled it awesome when I contacted him and has restored a lot of my faith in the brand.

You might not like the way they he does things, but I don't think you can say he isn't doing a good job. Admittedly it does seem these issues have come from how crazy things have got since they've exploded over the last year, hope they're able to pull it together.

site is live again now guys

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adam. said:Gotta say after contacting the guys last night totally agree with Greg on this. I won't lie I was pretty pissed but Jordan handled it awesome when I contacted him and has restored a lot of my faith in the brand.

You might not like the way they he does things, but I don't think you can say he isn't doing a good job. Admittedly it does seem these issues have come from how crazy things have got since they've exploded over the last year, hope they're able to pull it together.

I just feel like this could have been a lot more forgivable if he just let people know what was going on. I seriously doubt he was so busy he couldn't have let everybody know on Facebook or Twitter, or responded to an email. This whole thread could have been avoided if he had just told everybody why they hadn't gotten their shit in a month.

I own 1 Akrkaik tank and it's the tiger one that Derek Guidry did. I bought it because Derek's art is awesome, Arkaik's name is small on it, and it's a collab release with Dance Gavin Dance (whos music I enjoy). I'm not really a huge fan of the way they do business, but whatever, I got my tank quickly without any problems. So, personally, I have no qualms with their order fulfillment, but it's not good if they are scamming other people out of money.

I don't know why it's a huge deal that they sponsor brands and tours because Monster and Rockstar do that kind of stuff all the time. Sure, they're not clothing companies, but is there really a difference? All sorts of brands sponsor tours all the time and I don't think people complain about it. I dunno, maybe I'm missing the point.

Also, I heard from an anonymous source that Arkaik got something like $45,000 worth of orders in one month alone and I'm not sure that was even their top sales month. That's a hell of a lot of orders. Maybe they aren't good with money, so maybe they owe a lot of that to all different people, who knows...