Official Critiques wanted post.
Posted March 1st, 2011 by quakerninja
Do post shirts you want to have fixed.
Don't post shirts that took you no time or thought.
I can't help you if you have no understanding of what I am going to tell you.
Please have a basic understanding of the fundamentals and a willingness to accept criticism and the self motivation to take that information and improve yourself.
This is not a post to do your work for you and they are just opinions so please don't get butt hurt.
Also share and share alike please. No leaches. If you have something of value to add don't clam up we all have things we are really good at and things that we suck at.
Do describe what you are trying to get across and what you think the problem might be in your own words. I can't read your mind.
Don't just flood this place with crap and expect to get better. Your going to have to do all the hard parts on your own. All I can do is point out some technical mistakes and suggest improvements.
Don't post shirts that took you no time or thought.
I can't help you if you have no understanding of what I am going to tell you.
Please have a basic understanding of the fundamentals and a willingness to accept criticism and the self motivation to take that information and improve yourself.
This is not a post to do your work for you and they are just opinions so please don't get butt hurt.
Also share and share alike please. No leaches. If you have something of value to add don't clam up we all have things we are really good at and things that we suck at.
Do describe what you are trying to get across and what you think the problem might be in your own words. I can't read your mind.
Don't just flood this place with crap and expect to get better. Your going to have to do all the hard parts on your own. All I can do is point out some technical mistakes and suggest improvements.
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camoshop said about 1 year ago
my issue is that you think you're some master of the art world. as i said in my original post has the standards changed from this site!
when it was previous loaded you said you liked it and to add more stippling to the tongue i took your advice and did that. as for the inconsistent lines thats a load of shit the whiskers are meant to be solid as a feature point. as this image shows last time it was on the site it only had good and positive feed back made it to the front page with many votes. i think you need to step into the real world and get a clue. in the end your just an arrogant kid with an attitude.
Matt Borchert said about 1 year ago
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
Wanted some feedback. Honestly I'm pretty happy how this turn out. Keep in mind I have a minimalist style, and my target market are those with the same interest. Any improvement suggestions or feedback is greatly appreciated.
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
A little hard to see what needs to be fixed with the resolution. I think seeing it on on a T-shirt and fooling around with placement is going to be the main thing. If I were to say anything were to be changed, it would be the ribbon. I'm not sure whether the stitching on it works with the rest of the design. Maybe tone down the line thickness of the ribbon slightly. Solid design though.
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
Solid work man. They're both great. With the first one though, The grey background looks out of place, and the I would put the text behind the main design. Sick work though
anchored by land said about 1 year ago
-i,m pretty sure he does not think he is god, he was giving you a critique just let it go, if you cannot take creative criticism then stop drawing and designing cause you will never improve,craig has on multiple occasions crit my work and some times very harshly but man end of that day thats the shit you need to get better.
camoshop said about 1 year ago
i wouldn't be where i am today if i didn't take on advice when its justified. sometimes people need to step back at look at their own work before they do so. from some 20 something year old in a matter of a couple of years to go from shantz style work to all of a sudden hey i want to draw tattoo style and in a majority of the work is poorly executed if people didnt suck up his ass so much and had the balls to say something im sur ehe wouldnt get as much praise as he does.
iv been drawing my hole life i dont plan on giving up. carry on :)
Craig Robson said about 1 year ago
no matter how pissed you are with me i said some things that may have rung true. i still stand by my statements that some areas need improvements.
its cool that you wanted to draw attention to the whiskers, i think it could work if you did it in a more convincing way. and even if you take that as a personal attack, its not. its just a quick and fleeting aside. learn to take it as constructive.
i want to see your design skills get better, i want to see you say " give me a minute to at least try what you suggest" before jumping into a hate filled knee jerk response.
i am by no means a "master of the art world" and i try to keep learning because its the only way to get better. i didnt say what i said because of any rivalry or jealousy, i said i because by posting in here you asked for it.
sometimes i can spot things like inconsistent linework. i am by no means a total authority on illustration but i try to learn as much about the craft as possible, if i can pass on the tiny bits i gleam i will do so.
if after all this you still have a personal problem with me then so be it. im not too concerned, id just rather not have any bad blood.
Craig Robson said about 1 year ago
yeah... so i wrote what i wrote before seeing this. so take it as you will.
OmegaMan said about 1 year ago
Hmm,lots to chew on there. Thanks for all the input. Much appreciated.
Somaon said about 1 year ago
Benjiman said about 1 year ago
Matt Borchert said about 1 year ago
Are you doing these in hopes of turning them into shirt designs or just working on vector based artwork? I think the last one you posted is by far the most interesting, but none of them would translate too well to a shirt if that is your goal.
Matt Borchert said about 1 year ago
I agree, I don't see any fault with the artwork, but ditch that blue glow and think of presenting the artwork so it's a bit more clear from a thumbnail perspective of what's going on. Also for realistic printing, you really don't want a screen to go over the seams for the arm holes like that.
OmegaMan said about 1 year ago
Lots to chew on there. I could probably do with a different green, yeah. As far as giving justification for some of the stranger looking elements it just doesn't seem to me that everything has to make perfect sense with a design like this, but it probably would benefit from taking a couple things out.
Turning the dotted line into a meat cut chart thing instead of the fly's flight trail too might be cool too. I might just try that.
Thanks for the input. :)
Andrew Haines said about 1 year ago
You do know that age has nothing to do with talent right?
Benjiman said about 1 year ago
Thanks, I'll try it ;)
Infinite Black said about 1 year ago
The style and technique is awesome, but I'm confused about the actual content. It looks like a hot woman is being entangled by a gigantic octopus tentacle, but she doesn't seem to mind while in the background lies a tropical mass grave. The content is confusing to me. Why isn't she upset or struggling? Are they on land, or under water? Why is that octopus tentacle so massive? Honestly, (I'm not saying that you did this, but this is what it looks like) it looks like you traced a bikini model and drew a tentacle around her waist, but that doesn't convey the damsel-in-distress look that the content suggests.
I would say call this a great practice in technique, but start a new project with fresh ideas that make more sense visually. Keep up the good work.
Infinite Black said about 1 year ago
Yeah, the texture on the creature is very repetitive and doesn't give any sense of depth, especially on the face. The technique is good, but you need more of the darker colors on the places that are further away or curved away from the light. Don't be afraid to use some bold dark areas. The bandanna screws this up too. If the monster's chin is actually jutting out, it would overlap the bandanna significantly, but here it looks like the neck, bandanna, and chin are all in the same vertical plane. There's lots of good things about this though. Keep working.
Infinite Black said about 1 year ago
This is an interesting idea, and the layout on the shirt (if you can find a client to spend the money on massive printing sizes) would be sweet. However, I have some suggestions. The splatters are random and don't convey any movement to the piece. Imagine if someone got shot and the blood splattered, it would be focused in one area and the drops would get smaller and more spread out as you went away from that center. All of the splatter would be oriented in the same direction. Obviously, you're not going for super realistic, and that's fine, but the haphazard orientation of the splatter is distracting. Actually make some splatter using paint, etc., scan it in, and mess around with that instead of using brushes with random settings.
Second, consider fragmenting the skull and the splatter more to give it a broken glass type of feel. This is the idea, but make it look more visually exciting.
deadoctopi said about 1 year ago
No problemo. Like the style overall, certainly. Glad you didn't take anything to heart trying to pick it apart, only thought process behind that wall of nitpicking was "If it's the banner/header image, might want it to be clean and quick to convey a singular visual message."
That might have been the 2am talking, looking forward to seeing updates as well as other future work!
RACIDSQUARE said about 1 year ago
PitchGrim said about 1 year ago
I can see it just fine. I'd say to post it again for approval. It should be approved and up in the main tee section.
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
Thanks for the input. I'll definitley have to take some of the things you said into consideration, especially the splatter. The design will actually be for my hopeful intial launch. I'll have to get a quote first before I consider using it. The size of the print had crossed my mind...
OmegaMan said about 1 year ago
Heh, it's all good. Takes a lot to offend me. :P That's a decent point actually about it being a banner so it might need to be clearer too, but I just kind of freak the fuck off with most of my designs so it's fitting as far as most of my other stuff goes. You're certainly right about the green also, I'm lookin for a better shade as we speak.
Zappa said about 1 year ago
hey guys,this is something im workin on.need critiques and comments bout the piece :)
jonas art said about 1 year ago
slow proggress...
Somaon said about 1 year ago
Thank you! How can I improve or what are the areas I do need to improve to get them into T-shirt type status.
OmegaMan said about 1 year ago
Thoughts?
Benjiman said about 1 year ago
Hahaha I'm sorry I confused you, it never appeared to me that my ideas where so random (however, when you spell it out like that I do get what you mean).
The idea was basically to have something that sits in between paradise and death. One side you have the hot bikini girl and the flowers, on the other side you got the Skulls and the wreck wood and the giant octopus thing. Maybe she's not a damsel in distress but maybe it's just her pet and she isn't as innocent as she looks "It's a trap!" ..
Yeah, honestly I don't know if that's what it is to me or if that's the explanation cause I don't know how to respond to that. :p
But I'll take the rest as a compliment! And btw, the girl is just drawn from scratch, no reference material. :)
Thanks for the input!
OmegaMan said about 1 year ago
Infinite Black said about 1 year ago
It's looking good. Good composition and very dynamic. Overall, it's very intriguing and I'm excited to see the final product.
I know it's still in progress, but here's my one caution. Make sure the shading and detail looks consistent throughout the image. For example, the strokes on the jeans (awesome by the way) look similar to the boots and belt, but quite a bit different than the stroke quality on the skull, hat and hair. The bull leg shading is pretty blocky, but I think you're still working on that. My main challenge to you would be to vary the lines enough to give different values and shades and a good feel of depth, but not too much to make it feel like some parts are done in different styles. I feel like Cryface and Frenden are examples of people who do this wonderfully.
Keep up the good work.
quakerninja said about 1 year ago
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Zappa said about 1 year ago
thanks infinite black for the supportive comments!yeah im still working on the shadows and im still experimenting with what kind of shading technique that goes well with this ppiece.to be honest,this is the first time i try something like this,and i hope it turn out okay.im still in learning process.anyway thanks for the comment!
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
I'm pretty excited about this one. But wanted to see if anyone thought it could use some improvment or offer some suggestions. Main thing may be the placement on the shirt. Kind of struggled with this. Anything higher, and the design would have to be altered and shrunk. As always, any feedback is appreciated.
BlindAspiration said about 1 year ago
Craig Robson said about 1 year ago
i think the composition needs a little work too, it feels forced and under designed, at the very least the type should follow the angle of the background.
this is a case of the design lacking skill, i know we talked previously about art and design being different, this is a great example.